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[None][perf] Triton FP8-activation MoE for decode-sized batches on Hopper - #21250
Split out of #20878 (GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on Hopper) so MoE owners can review it on its own. The other changes are in #21179 (Python) and #21178 (C++).
On SM90, FP8 block-scale MoE runs through the fp8_block_scales CUTLASS leaf (DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl).
Its grouped DeepGEMM kernel walks every expert group on one persistent CTA per SM. At decode batch sizes most experts are
empty, so the GEMMs stay far from the bandwidth bound.
This PR adds an opt-in SM90 leaf, TrtllmTritonFp8ActGroupedGemmFp8BlockScalesImpl
(trtllm.triton.fp8_act_grouped_gemm.fp8_block_scales). It is a registered subclass of the DeepGEMM leaf and runs
Triton FP8-activation kernels for decode-sized batches. For everything else it calls the DeepGEMM leaf's run_moe.
Selection
Off by default. The leaf ranks ahead of the DeepGEMM leaf but declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED unless TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1. Without the flag, every SM90 FP8 block-scale layer resolves exactly as
on main.
The flag is a MoEEnvFlag, so can_implement reads it from the frozen environment and it lands in the
environment fingerprint. find_cutlass_leaf returns the leaf only when the flag is set.
The leaf declares SwiGLU only and no expert bias, so the DeepGEMM leaf serves other layers under its own identity.
The DeepGEMM leaf is unchanged from main: an impl_id pin of it measures DeepGEMM only.
When a call takes the Triton path (_takes_triton_path; otherwise the fused op runs)
run_moe receives at most TRITON_FP8_ACT_MAX_TOKENS (32) rows. These are the rows after dispatch: with
attention DP and an allgather they count every DP rank's tokens.
No moe_output buffer is passed, so the path never runs under NVLinkOneSided.
The input is BF16 without scale factors.
The layer's clamp is one value for every local expert. This is read once from the installed act_* slots in cache_derived_state.
The Triton path
Per-1x128 FP8 activation quantization, and FP8 x FP8 GEMMs with 128x128 weight scales. The grid covers only the
expert blocks the batch can occupy.
SwiGLU fused with the FP8 quantization of the FC2 input.
A single-program moe_align for up to 128 (token, expert) pairs, and a top-k sum kernel.
The batch-dependent kernel arguments are do_not_specialize, so new batch sizes do not compile new kernels
beyond the power-of-two classes.
Numerics. The rounding steps follow the fused op:
quantization by a correctly rounded 448 / amax;
activation and weight scales multiplied before they scale the accumulator, as DeepGEMM does;
BF16 FC1/FC2 outputs;
SiLU with an accurate expf and IEEE division, rounded to BF16 before quantization;
routing weights applied in FP32 to the BF16 expert outputs.
The FP8 GEMMs accumulate in a different order, so results are not bit-identical to the fused op. Against the fused op
on H100 and H200 (1 to 32 rows, five seeds each, the GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 and DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE shapes), 84-98% of the
outputs are bit-identical (50% for one row of the GLM shape), cosine distance is at most 6e-4, and the largest
difference is 18 BF16 ulp of the row's largest output. Against the FP32 reference that follows the fused op's rounding
steps (test_fp8_act_matches_reference), the kernel agrees to within the reference's own FP32-vs-FP64 difference.
ConfigurableMoE's FP8 block-scale accuracy test passes all 9 SM90 cases on H100 with the flag set.
Expert parallelism. (token, expert) pairs owned by other ranks keep a clamped local expert id with zero weight,
as in the SM120 Triton path, so they are still computed. Dropping them is a follow-up before enabling the path for
EP>1.
Performance
With the flag set, from this PR's CI wheel (main 37e6e67 + this PR).
Full MoE layer under a CUDA graph, us per call, fused op -> Triton:
Rows
GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 MoE, H200
same, H100
DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE, H200
same, H100
1
98.6 -> 30.8
99.6 -> 34.7
102.7 -> 40.9
103.8 -> 39.8
4
119.3 -> 60.8
124.3 -> 79.2
125.2 -> 66.8
133.5 -> 81.4
8
164.9 -> 111.5
186.4 -> 152.3
172.2 -> 104.8
192.6 -> 138.0
16
217.6 -> 175.8
258.9 -> 249.2
223.4 -> 149.6
257.7 -> 205.2
32
325.4 -> 283.3
401.0 -> 405.4
329.2 -> 272.4
390.2 -> 353.6
GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 MoE = 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank; DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE = 256
experts, top-8, hidden 7168, 256 per rank. On H100 the GLM shape breaks even at 32 rows, so the 32-row threshold
(tuned on H200) sits at the edge there.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 end to end on H200 (TP4, MTP3, BF16 KV cache, with #21179; CI wheel, flag off -> on, two runs each):
GSM8K (400 questions): 98.75% with the flag, 98.25-98.5% without.
Compilation on first use (H100, empty Triton cache, GLM shape): going through 1 to 32 rows, new kernels compiled only
at 1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 17 and 18 rows: 1.4 s for the first call and 0.06-0.4 s for each later one, about 2.5 s in total
per process. Every other row count compiled nothing. A shuffled order compiled the same number of times.
The GEMM tile choice (block_n 64 with 4 stages when K >= 2048 and at most 32 expert blocks) was tuned on the
GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 shapes.
Not measured: end to end on DeepSeek/Qwen3, H20, EP>1, and attention DP with MoE TP. These are needed before
enabling the path by default.
Test Coverage
test_moe_impl.py:
the leaf's declarations, probed with its flag;
the opt-in: resolution, an impl_id pin and find_cutlass_leaf without and with the flag;
declining an expert bias and non-SwiGLU activations.
test_moe_backend.py (cpu_only):
run_moe dispatch at 32 vs 33 rows and each fallback, with the forwarded weights, clamp and output_dtype;
the EP slot remap with None routing scales;
the clamp read off the slots;
the CUTLASS-leaf op-flags test now covers this leaf, and its fixture sets activation.
test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py (whole file in l0_h100.yml):
the FP8-activation MoE against an FP32 reference: 1 to 24 tokens, hidden 512 and 2048, E8M0 and FP32 block
scales, no clamp / clamp / clamp after SiLU, zero-weight pairs and an FP32 output;
the single-program alignment with exact per-expert checks for 8/60/72/288 experts and concentrated routing.
PR Checklist
PR description clearly explains what and why.
Test cases are provided for new code paths.
No API changes. The new environment flag is opt-in.
Adds an opt-in SM90 Triton implementation for FP8-activation MoE decode batches. The path quantizes activations, runs two expert GEMMs, and combines routed outputs. CUTLASS leaf selection checks opt-in flags. Tests cover computation, selection, eligibility, and fallback behavior.
Changes
SM90 FP8-Activation MoE Path
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Summary
FP8 kernels and forward path tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py, tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py, tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml
Adds grouped FP8 activation quantization, FP8 expert GEMMs, small-batch alignment, and routing-weighted output reduction. Tests compare outputs with a reference and check alignment. The H100 pre-merge list now includes the full test module.
Adds the SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE flag, defaulting to "0", and an optional opt_in_flag for CUTLASS leaves. Leaf lookup checks SM support and the collected opt-in flag.
Hopper leaf registration and dispatch tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper_triton.py, tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/moe_resolution.py, tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_moe_backend.py, tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_moe_impl.py
Adds the opt-in SM90 Triton leaf ahead of the existing FP8 block-scales leaf. The leaf uses the Triton path for supported inputs and delegates other cases to its parent implementation. Tests cover selection, eligibility, routing, clamps, and fallback behavior.
sequenceDiagram
participant MoEEnvironment
participant find_cutlass_leaf
participant TritonFp8Leaf
participant FP8MoERunner
MoEEnvironment->>find_cutlass_leaf: Provide SM and opt-in flag
find_cutlass_leaf->>TritonFp8Leaf: Select eligible leaf when opted in
TritonFp8Leaf->>FP8MoERunner: Run FP8-activation MoE for supported inputs
LoadingMerge Risk: Low · up to bc803
The Triton decode path is opt-in. When enabled, a layer whose hidden or per-partition intermediate size is not a multiple of 128 could fail during decode instead of falling back to DeepGEMM. Add the alignment check before enabling the path by default.
Security architecture risk: Low · up to bc803
The change is explicitly opt-in and preserves the existing fallback. No security weakness was established, but distributed execution and replay behavior have only been assessed statically.
Retained concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
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Security Blast Radius
inferred — The demonstrated exposure is GPU computation memory and inference outputs on workers that enable the new leaf. The 32-row threshold limits path eligibility; it is not an isolation boundary between users or requests.
Trust Boundaries and Controls
observed — Production routing supplies expert IDs and scales before dispatch. Deployment eligibility controls admission of the new implementation, while runtime eligibility prevents it from replacing computation that must write a scheduler-supplied output buffer.
Resilience and Maintainability Implications
inferred — Under the scheduler's valid-routing contract, static inspection supports complete initialization of consumed pair rows: alignment fills padding sentinels, GEMMs mask padded rows and exit before unused expert blocks, and quantization and reduction write their allocated outputs. Per-call allocation avoids new shared scratch-state recovery or cross-call ownership transitions. Hardware failure and concurrent replay behavior remain unverified.
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Add tests for the Hopper dispatch, the expert-parallel scale masking and the None-scale fallback.
This PR adds three observable behaviors in run_moe. No added test exercises any of them:
The selector _triton_fp8_act_swiglu chooses between the Triton path and _run_fused_moe_op. Its conditions are the 32-token boundary, expert bias, LoRA, moe_output and a tensor-valued clamp.
For ep_size > 1, local_ids are clamped and local_scales are zeroed where local_ids != offsets. A regression here sends non-owned pairs to local expert 0 or the last local expert. Those pairs then add incorrect contributions to the output without any error. Padding IDs of -1 or num_slots are also handled by this masking.
If token_final_scales is None, the code substitutes ones.
test_fp8_act_matches_reference calls run_triton_fp8_block_scale_moe_fp8_act directly. It never goes through run_moe. The PR reports that the ConfigurableMoE accuracy test passes, but that does not establish that the test reaches the Triton branch with ep_size > 1.
Smallest practical additions:
Add a unit test in tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py. It should build local_ids/local_scales the way run_moe does: use slot_start > 0 and include some IDs outside the local range, plus -1. Compare the result with _run_moe_fp8_act_reference, keeping only the owned pairs.
Add a parametrized dispatch test on DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl with 32 and 33 tokens. It should assert which path runs, for example by patching _run_fused_moe_op.
Test coverage summary for this cohort:
Modified files: tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py and tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml. The list entry now selects the whole module.
Added tests: test_moe_align_non_power_of_two_experts[8|72-multi_kernel|single_program], and test_fp8_act_matches_reference for {1, 4, 16, 24} tokens × {no_clamp, clamp, clamp_after_silu}.
Covered: both alignment paths, including the 128-pair threshold (16×8) and above it (24×8), FP8 rounding and the clamp ordering.
Not covered: the Hopper selector, expert-parallel masking, the None-scale fallback, output_dtype, and 0 tokens.
Verdict: needs follow-up.
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Add focused tests for the observable behavior in run_moe: verify the Hopper
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Thanks for splitting this out. The Triton kernels themselves check out: the alignment, the grid bound, the indexing, the SwiGLU halves and clamp order, and the quantizer arithmetic match the fused op. Counts: 1 blocker, 3 possibly blocking, 8 required, 6 nice to have. The blocker is a pre-merge CPU-stage test failure (inline at fp8_block_scales_hopper.py:89); the possibly-blocking items need the measurements given inline (the EP > 1 cost, the default-on switch with no opt-out, and mid-serving Triton JIT). Two required items have no line in the diff:
[Required] Overlapping in-flight PRs: #20878 is still open and still carries the pre-1c968eb copy of these kernels (its description says it is superseded by this PR), so please close it. Draft #21778 rewrites the same MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE leaf row and adds MoeConfig.tactic id pinning: whichever lands second conflicts, and it interacts with the identity question inline. #19676 speeds up the SM90 grouped DeepGEMM kernel this PR bypasses at decode, so the 32-row threshold and the 53/47 us baseline should be re-checked once it lands.
[Required] The evidence doesn't match the reviewed code: the performance numbers come from the #20878 branch with the pre-fix kernels (approximate division, routing weights in FC2), so please re-measure on this branch; and commit f2d8d9a says "moe_align_block_size also accepts expert counts that are not a power of two", which this diff doesn't touch (that landed on main in #21923), so please drop it from the commit/squash message.
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[Blocker] This line breaks the pre-merge CPU stages. test_cutlass_leaf_run_moe_hands_the_op_its_declarations (tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_moe_backend.py:6642, cpu_only, collected through l0_cpu.yml -> unittest/_torch/moe with -m cpu_only on CPU-Generic-x86/arm) is parametrized over every CUTLASS leaf that issues the fused op, including DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl. Its fixture _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu (:6575-6599) builds the leaf with __new__ and sets activation_type and the act_* slots but never activation, so self.activation here raises AttributeError before the gate can fall back to the (recorded) fused op. Before this PR the leaf inherited the base run_moe, which never reads activation.
Fix: set leaf.activation = DEFAULT_MOE_ACTIVATION in _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu (already imported in that file). Please don't drop the leaf from the parametrization instead: that test is the only pin of this leaf's use_deepseek_fp8_block_scale=True op flags.
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Fixed in 82e05f4. _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu now sets leaf.activation = DEFAULT_MOE_ACTIVATION. The DeepGEMM leaf stays in the parametrization, and its run_moe is back to the base one, so it no longer reads activation. The new Triton leaf (see the identity thread) is in _CUTLASS_FUSED_MOE_OP_LEAVES too, and above its threshold it hands the op the same use_deepseek_fp8_block_scale=True flags.
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[Possibly blocking] With ep_size > 1 every (token, expert) pair owned by another rank still goes through FC1/SwiGLU/FC2 here: _local_slot_ids clamps it onto local expert 0 or E-1 and only its weight is zeroed, while the fused op skips non-local experts (moe_kernels.cu:372-381, finalize :1984-1987). The repo's DeepSeek-R1-0528 H200 recipes (examples/configs/database/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528/H200/1k1k_tp8_conc{1,2,4,8}.yaml: TP8, moe_expert_parallel_size: 8, CUTLASS, MTP3, no attention DP, so no comm strategy and 4-32 rows on every rank) take exactly this branch: each rank reads up to two extra experts' FP8 weights per layer (about +88 MB per layer at 4 rows for H=7168, I=2048) and runs up to 8x the GEMM rows at 32 rows, so decode can end up slower than the DeepGEMM path it replaces. The class docstring's "launch only the expert blocks the batch routes to" doesn't hold under EP either.
Measurement that decides it: TPOT and per-MoE-layer time (nsys) for those 1k1k_tp8_conc{1,2,4,8} recipes on 8xH200 at 4/8/16/32 rows, main vs this PR vs this PR gated to ep_size == 1; a TPOT regression beyond run-to-run noise (about 1-2%) would make it a blocker.
Suggested fix: gate the Triton path on self.ep_size == 1 until EP is measured, or drop non-owned pairs instead of clamping them (pass the unclamped offsets, send ids outside [0, E) to the reserved padding bin in _moe_align_small_kernel, mask them in moe_align_block_size, and skip those rows in _moe_topk_sum_kernel with a masked load).
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In 82e05f4 the path is opt-in (TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1). The DeepSeek-R1-0528 H200 1k1k_tp8_conc* recipes and every other EP>1 deployment therefore stay on the DeepGEMM leaf unless they set the flag. The EP>1 behavior itself is unchanged: non-owned pairs keep a clamped local id with zero weight. The class docstring now says they are still computed, and the docstring no longer claims that only routed experts launch. Dropping non-owned pairs in the alignment kernels, and the TP8/EP8 TPOT and per-layer measurement you list, are follow-ups before the path is enabled for EP>1.
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[Possibly blocking] This makes the Triton path the default decode MoE kernel for every FP8 block-scale model on SM90 (DeepSeek-V3/R1, Qwen3-FP8, Kimi-K2, GLM FP8), and this leaf is the only SM90 FP8 block-scale backend, so users can't opt out short of patching code. The threshold of 32 and the tile table (fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py:933-938) were measured only on GLM-5.3-Flash TP4/EP1, on the #20878 branch. Not measured: 17-32 rows with top-8 (more than 128 pairs, the 4-launch moe_align_block_size), the 128-wide FC1 tile when num_m_blocks > 32, DeepSeek/Qwen3 K/N shapes, H100/H20, attention-DP + MoE-TP (AllGather), eager decode.
Measurement that decides it: per-MoE-layer GPU time (nsys) and TPOT, fused op vs Triton, CUDA graphs on, at 1/2/4/8/16/24/32 rows for DeepSeek-R1-0528 FP8 (TP8/EP1 and attention-DP + MoE-TP8), Qwen3-235B-A22B-FP8 TP4 and Qwen3-30B-A3B-FP8 TP1 on H200 and H100 (H20 if supported), plus one CUDA-graphs-off run at batch 1-8; any point where Triton is slower than main would make it a blocker unless there is an opt-out.
Suggested fix: add a switch read once at construction (an env var like the ones in cutedsl/grouped_gemm/nvfp4.py:54-63, or a MoeConfig field with the golden-manifest/schema regeneration), and enable the path by default only where the numbers show it wins.
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Done in 82e05f4: the path is off by default. The new leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED unless TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1. The flag is a MoEEnvFlag, so can_implement reads it from d.env and it lands in the environment fingerprint. Without it every SM90 FP8 block-scale layer resolves to deepgemm.cuda.hopper_grouped_gemm.fp8_block_scales exactly as on main. test_sm90_triton_fp8_act_leaf_is_opt_in and the existing Qwen3 resolution test pin that. The DeepSeek/Qwen3/H100/H20/eager measurement matrix is what it would take to make the path default-on; that would be a separate change.
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[Possibly blocking] These kernels compile per batch-size class: NUM_PAIRS_POW2/NUM_SLOTS_POW2/block_n/num_stages are constexprs, and the pinned Triton 3.8 also specializes num_pairs, num_slots and num_valid_tokens on == 1 and % 16. CUDA graphs only cover the captured generation sizes; eager context or mixed steps of at most 32 rows (a short prompt, the tail chunk of a chunked prefill) hit classes no warmup compiled, so the first such step compiles 1-3 kernels inside the served iteration on every rank: a stall of roughly 0.5-2 s per kernel with a cold Triton cache, once per size class and per fresh container. The fused op had no JIT at these sizes.
Measurement that decides it: fresh container (empty Triton cache), DeepSeek-R1-0528 FP8 or GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on H200 with its reference config (enable_padding: true); after warmup, send single prompts of 3, 5, 9 and 17 tokens and compare the first request's TTFT per size with main; a spike above about 100 ms that main doesn't show would make it a blocker.
Suggested fix: mark the batch-dependent ints do_not_specialize (they only feed comparisons) and prewarm the five NUM_PAIRS_POW2 classes plus one multi-kernel size at load time or in the model warmup.
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Partly addressed in 1aaa3ff. num_valid_tokens in the GEMM and num_pairs / num_slots in the single-program alignment are now do_not_specialize; they only bound masks and the padding fill. The remaining compile classes are the NUM_PAIRS_POW2 / NUM_SLOTS_POW2 / block_n / num_stages constexprs. I have not added a load-time prewarm: the path is now opt-in, and a clean prewarm needs real-shaped weights on the device, which belongs in the model warmup. The fresh-container first-request TTFT check at 3/5/9/17 tokens is still pending on H200.
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[Required] The docstring (so batches on either side of the dispatch threshold get the same numerics, :993-996) and the description ("a batch's result does not depend on whether it takes this path") promise more than the code delivers. Two differences from the fused op remain and account for the "within one BF16 ulp" in 1c968eb: (1) this line computes (dot * a_scale) * b_scale, while DeepGEMM forms a_scale * b_scale first (fp8_gemm_impl.cuh:380-391), which rounds differently for FP32 (non-power-of-two) checkpoint scales such as DeepSeek-V3/R1 and Qwen3-FP8; (2) tl.sigmoid (:705-710) uses Triton's approximate exp and division, while the CUTLASS SiLU is 1/(1+expf(-x)) with IEEE division (FAST_MATH is off).
Both are cheap to align: accumulator += tl.dot(a, b) * (a_scale[:, None] * b_scale[None, :]) and, e.g., tl.math.div_rn(1.0, 1.0 + libdevice.exp(-gate)). Otherwise please reword the docstring and the description to the measured "within one BF16 ulp". The new test can't see this because _make_inputs uses power-of-two (E8M0) scales; a parity check against torch.ops.trtllm.fused_moe with FP32 scales at 1 and 32/33 rows would pin it.
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Aligned in 1aaa3ff. The GEMM now computes tl.dot(a, b) * (a_scale[:, None] * b_scale[None, :]). SiLU is x * div_rn(1, 1 + libdevice.exp(-x)), matching the CUTLASS SiLU's accurate expf and IEEE division. The FP8 GEMMs still accumulate in a different order, so the docstring now says the paths agree to within about one BF16 ulp instead of promising the same numerics. The PR description says the same. The test now also runs FP32 (non-power-of-two) block scales. A parity check against torch.ops.trtllm.fused_moe at 1 and 32/33 rows is not in yet; it needs an SM90 run.
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[Nice to have] With hidden=512 this never runs the K >= 2048 and num_m_blocks <= 32 tile (block_n=64, num_stages=4) that real hidden sizes use at 1-4 tokens; no expert spans several 16-row blocks (the norm at EP > 1); there are no zero weights or non-default output_dtype; the weights have power-of-two scales; and a reference that re-implements the same rounding with a 1e-4 cosine bound would still pass if a BF16 rounding step were dropped. Suggest adding hidden >= 2048 at 1 and 4 tokens, a concentrated-routing case with the production num_m_blocks, a zero-weight case, FP32 scales via per_block_cast_to_fp8, int32 ids, and a parity check against the fused op.
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Mostly added in 1aaa3ff. test_fp8_act_matches_reference now also runs:
hidden 2048 at 1 and 4 tokens (the block_n=64 / num_stages=4 tile);
FP32 block scales via per_block_cast_to_fp8. test_fp8_act_zero_weights_and_output_dtype covers zero-weight pairs and an FP32 output. Concentrated routing with experts spanning several 16-row blocks is in the new alignment test. Not added yet: a parity check against torch.ops.trtllm.fused_moe, which needs an SM90 run.
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[Nice to have] Alignment runs no FP8 dot, so requires_cuda (as the existing alignment test uses) fits better than skip_pre_hopper; 8 is a power of two; and the multi_kernel arm repeats test_moe_align_block_size_matches_reference, which checks more. Consider running _moe_align_small through those stronger checks instead (exact expert_ids and per-expert contents, at most 128 pairs, the production num_m_blocks).
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Done in 1aaa3ff. The PR's alignment test is replaced by test_moe_align_small_matches_reference. It is marked requires_cuda and runs at the production num_m_blocks for expert counts 8/60/72/288 and up to 128 pairs. It uses the same exact expert_ids and per-expert content checks as test_moe_align_block_size_matches_reference, through a shared _check_alignment helper. test_moe_align_small_concentrated_routing covers experts that span several blocks.
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[Nice to have] The quantizers group by _FP8_GROUP_SIZE, but the GEMM indexes their scales with group_k=_BLOCK_SHAPE[0]; tie them together (_FP8_GROUP_SIZE = _BLOCK_SHAPE[0]) so one can't change without the other. _FP8_E4M3_MAX can come from torch.finfo(torch.float8_e4m3fn).max.
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[Nice to have] This repeats fp8_block_scales_triton.py:80-90 and already differs from it (the ep_size == 1 shortcut). Consider one helper next to _local_slot_ids on CutlassFusedMoEBase (e.g. _local_routing(ctx)) used by both leaves.
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Left as is for now. The SM120 leaf has no ep_size == 1 shortcut, and its CPU test builds the leaf without ep_size, so a shared _local_routing on CutlassFusedMoEBase would change that leaf's behavior in a PR scoped to SM90. I'd rather do it as a small follow-up that moves both leaves to one helper together.
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[Nice to have]ctx.lora_params is always None for this leaf (the scheduler only passes it to backends with supports_moe_lora, moe_scheduler.py:1146), and the activation_type clause is implied by the isinstance(activation, SwigluActivation) check; consider dropping both (and "no LoRA" in the docs), and binding plan = require_comm_plan(self, ctx) in run_moe to use plan.moe_output here.
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Done in 82e05f4. The lora_params and activation_type clauses are gone. The leaf's activation_support declares SwiGLU only, so resolution keeps other activations on the DeepGEMM leaf, and run_moe reads moe_output through require_comm_plan(self, ctx).
Thanks for the detailed review. Pushed 82e05f4 (own opt-in identity, gate/clamp/docs) and 1aaa3ff (kernel arithmetic, JIT specialization, tests). On the items without a line:
Evidence: the numbers in the description came from [None][perf] GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 performance fixes on Hopper #20878 with the pre-fix kernels. I'll re-measure this branch on H200 (GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 TP4 MTP3, with the flag set) and update the description; until then it says they have not been re-measured.
The stale "moe_align_block_size also accepts expert counts that are not a power of two" line in f2d8d9a will be dropped from the squash message; the description no longer says it.
Not run yet: GPU tests on SM90, the EP>1 and default-on measurement matrices, and the fresh-container JIT TTFT check. The path is opt-in in the meantime.
The single-program alignment against a routing-derived reference.
The multi-kernel alignment, reached through the 24-token case.
The narrow-N tile, through hidden 2048 at 1 and 4 tokens.
FP32 and E8M0 weight scales.
Both clamp orders.
Zero-weight pairs.
FP32 output dtype.
Test lists: The PR description lists test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py for l0_h100.yml. The test_moe_backend.py and test_moe_impl.py tests are CPU tests, so confirm that l0_cpu.yml collects them.
Gaps:
intermediate=256 is fixed. FC2 therefore always has K<2048 and never takes the narrow-N tile.
No case has hidden or intermediate that is not a multiple of 128. That input fails the assert intermediate % _FP8_GROUP_SIZE == 0 check at run time.
The author reports that no SM90 GPU run has been done.
Verdict: needs follow-up. Run the SM90 GPU tests, and add an FC2 case with intermediate>=2048 to cover the narrow tile for the second GEMM.
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Extend the FP8 activation test coverage in `test_fp8_act_matches_reference` with
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- Around line 113-121: Update `can_implement` to return `SHAPE_UNALIGNED` when a
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#!/bin/bash# How other leaves report alignment rejections, and what the DeepGEMM runner requires.
rg -nP --type=py -C4 'SHAPE_UNALIGNED' tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe
rg -nP --type=py -C3 'intermediate_size_per_partition' tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass
With opt-in enabled, the Triton leaf can report an unaligned shape as eligible. On the decode branch, an unaligned input width can then fail the quantization assertion. An unaligned intermediate shard can also fail, although the VANILLA loader rejects it earlier.
Return SHAPE_UNALIGNED when a known hidden size or per-partition intermediate size is not a multiple of 128. Abstain when the relevant field is None. Add cases to test_sm90_triton_fp8_act_leaf_declines_what_its_kernel_lacks.
The DeepGEMM leaf also requires these alignments on SM90, so declining Triton alone does not guarantee a working fallback.
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Ran the unit tests on an H100 (SM90 build of main + this PR). Three test-side bugs surfaced, fixed in c2e772e; the kernel itself needed no change:
test_fp8_act_matches_reference (hidden 2048, 1 token) failed at cosine-diff ~3e-4. The reference computed 448.0 / amax, which torch evaluates as amax.reciprocal() * 448 and does not round correctly; one ulp of scale moved values sitting on an FP8 rounding midpoint. The kernel's div_rn matches the CUTLASS quantizer's 448.f / amax. With tensor-by-tensor division in the reference, kernel and reference agree to within the reference's own FP32-vs-FP64 noise (≤ 5e-9 over 15 seeds/shapes, most bit-exact).
test_sm90_triton_fp8_act_leaf_dispatch fallback cases: the fixture's quant scales were a SimpleNamespace; they are now the FusedMoEQuantScalesDeepSeekFP8BlockScales tuple the leaf holds.
test_moe_backend with TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1: decode-sized runs call no autotuned op, so tactic capture/replay is skipped for them and only accuracy is checked.
H100 results after the fix (SEQ_LENS_TO_TEST widened locally to 1/8/32/33/512):
Test
Result
test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py
55 passed, 13 skipped
test_moe_impl.py
282 passed
test_moe_backend.py -m cpu_only
185 passed
test_moe_backend CUTLASS FP8 block scales, flag off / on
25 / 25 passed
test_configurable_moe_single_gpu FP8 block scales, flag on
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Minor · Mask zero-weight expert outputs before reduction. · fp8_block_scales_hopper_triton.py:167-193
tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper_triton.py:167-193 Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Mask zero-weight expert outputs before reduction.
A nonlocal pair is computed using a clamped local expert. If that computation overflows, multiplying its output by zero can produce NaN and corrupt the token result.
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Update the reduction in the kernel used by
run_triton_fp8_block_scale_moe_fp8_act to mask each row to zero when its routing
weight is zero before converting and accumulating it. Preserve weighted
accumulation for nonzero weights so nonlocal expert outputs cannot contaminate
the result with NaN.
Add a CUDA graph replay test for the SM90 Triton leaf.
The eager accuracy checks can pass despite a capture or replay regression. Add an SM90 test that opts in, asserts that the caller selected this leaf, warms it up, then captures and replays it with changed inputs against a reference. Include the test in tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml.
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Add an SM90 CUDA graph capture-and-replay test for the Triton FP8-activation
leaf, with the necessary opt-in and an assertion that the caller selected
`TrtllmTritonFp8ActGroupedGemmFp8BlockScalesImpl`. Warm up the leaf, capture and
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- Around line 167-193: Update the reduction in the kernel used by
run_triton_fp8_block_scale_moe_fp8_act to mask each row to zero when its routing
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- Around line 5523-5534: Add an SM90 CUDA graph capture-and-replay test for the
Triton FP8-activation leaf, with the necessary opt-in and an assertion that the
caller selected `TrtllmTritonFp8ActGroupedGemmFp8BlockScalesImpl`. Warm up the
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The Blockers from my review of 2026-11-10 are resolved or answered at c2e772e:
fp8_block_scales_hopper.py is back to main's base run_moe (no activation read), and _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu now sets activation (test_moe_backend.py:6601); the cpu_only declaration test covers both SM90 leaves (82e05f4).
Not re-reviewed: the new opt-in leaf cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper_triton.py (+193), the opt-in filter in find_cutlass_leaf, and the kernel arithmetic changes in 1aaa3ff, all added after 1c968eb.
No CI list sets TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1, so the leaf's GPU end-to-end runs (test_moe_backend / configurable MoE with the flag on) were done only locally on the author's H100. CI covers it only through the direct kernel tests (l0_h100 pre-merge) and the mocked CPU dispatch tests.
Full-layer CUDA-graph microbench at 1-32 rows on H200 and H100 for the GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 and DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE shapes: 2.5-3.2x at 1 row; on H100 the GLM shape breaks even at 32 rows.
Against the fused op: not bit-identical (my earlier description overstated this). 50-98% of outputs are bit-identical, cosine distance at most 6e-4, worst 18 BF16 ulp of the row's largest output.
First-use compilation (H100, empty cache): new kernels only at 1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 17 and 18 rows, about 2.5 s in total per process; no other row count up to 32 compiles anything.
Still open before default-on, as listed in the description: EP>1 (other ranks' pairs are still computed with zero weight), end-to-end DeepSeek/Qwen3, H20 and attention DP.
Could you please rebase this branch onto the latest upstream main to include the CI hang fix in #22101 (6edbe383497a)? The current branch still contains the regression that can cause pipelines to hang for an extended period and worsen CI queueing
…pper
On SM90 the CUTLASS MoE path runs FP8 block-scale expert GEMMs through the
grouped DeepGEMM kernel: one persistent CTA per SM that walks every expert
group. At decode batch sizes most experts are empty and each SM streams its
weight tiles through a single serialized pipeline, so the GEMMs stay far
from the bandwidth bound.
For a plain SwiGLU (optionally clamped by a scalar), no expert bias, no
LoRA and at most 32 tokens per rank, the SM90 fp8_block_scales leaf
(DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl) now runs a Triton path, and keeps
the fused op otherwise:
- per 1x128 FP8 activation quantization, and FP8 x FP8 GEMMs with 128x128
weight scales whose grid covers only the expert blocks the batch can
occupy;
- SwiGLU fused with the FP8 quantization of the FC2 input;
- a single-program moe_align for up to 128 (token, expert) pairs and a
top-k sum kernel.
moe_align_block_size also accepts expert counts that are not a power of two.
Without expert parallelism the routed expert IDs are used as-is.
H200, 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank (CUDA
graph), full MoE: 4 tokens 64.7 us, 1 token 28.7 us; the FC1/FC2 GEMMs on
the grouped DeepGEMM path take 53/47 us and 43/36 us.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8, H200 TP4, MTP-3, 13K-token prompt, concurrency 1:
decode step 14.4 -> 11.7 ms, 184 -> 225.5 output tok/s per user; GSM8K
unchanged.
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
…decode MoE
The Triton FP8-activation MoE rounded differently from the fused CUTLASS
op it replaces at decode sizes, so the result of a batch depended on its
size. ConfigurableMoE's FP8 block-scale accuracy test (assert_close with
rtol 1e-2 and atol 0.1 against a dense FP8 reference) failed 3 of its 9
SM90 cases. The differences:
- Activations were quantized as x / (amax / 448) with Triton's default
approximate division. The CUTLASS quantizer multiplies by 448 / amax and
stores the reciprocal, both correctly rounded. BF16 inputs often land
exactly on an FP8 rounding midpoint, so the division error decided the
rounding direction of whole elements.
- The SwiGLU output was quantized from FP32; the CUTLASS epilogue rounds it
to BF16 first.
- The routing weights scaled the FC2 accumulators before the BF16 rounding;
the CUTLASS finalize scales the BF16 expert outputs in FP32.
Follow the CUTLASS steps in all three places: both quantizers use
tl.math.div_rn, the FC2 GEMM no longer takes the routing weights and the
top-k sum applies them. On H200 the Triton path now matches the fused op
bit for bit on the 1-token cases of the test and within one BF16 ulp
elsewhere, and all 9 cases pass.
In test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py the reference follows the same rounding,
and the FP8-activation test passes the SwiGLU limit through _make_inputs,
which now returns it (the call failed with a duplicate keyword argument).
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
…dentity
The decode-sized Triton path ran inside the DeepGEMM leaf's run_moe, so
steps of at most 32 rows ran Triton kernels under
deepgemm.cuda.hopper_grouped_gemm.fp8_block_scales, an impl_id pin of that
leaf measured Triton at decode sizes, and the path became the default for
every SM90 FP8 block-scale model.
Move it to a registered subclass,
TrtllmTritonFp8ActGroupedGemmFp8BlockScalesImpl
(trtllm.triton.fp8_act_grouped_gemm.fp8_block_scales). It runs the
Triton kernels up to TRITON_FP8_ACT_MAX_TOKENS rows and calls the
DeepGEMM leaf's run_moe otherwise. The DeepGEMM leaf is back to the base
behavior.
- Opt-in: the leaf ranks ahead of the DeepGEMM leaf in CUTLASS_LEAVES
but declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED unless
TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1. The flag is a MoEEnvFlag, so
can_implement reads it from d.env and it lands in the environment
fingerprint. find_cutlass_leaf returns an opt-in leaf only when its
flag is set.
- The leaf declares SwiGLU only and no expert bias, so the DeepGEMM leaf
serves other layers under its own name.
- The clamp comes from the installed act_* slots, reduced once in
cache_derived_state; a clamp that differs between experts keeps the
fused op.
- The always-false LoRA and activation-type checks are gone.
- The guide rows describe the gate as the rows run_moe receives after
dispatch, never with a moe_output buffer (NVLinkOneSided).
Tests: the CPU fixture that builds CUTLASS leaves sets activation, the
leaf is in the declaration table (with its flag), and new tests cover
the opt-in for resolution, pins and lookup, the declines, the run_moe
dispatch at 32/33 rows and each fallback, the EP slot remap with None
scales, and the clamp read off the slots.
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
…rithmetic
Two steps of the Triton FP8-activation path still rounded differently
from the fused op:
- The GEMM scaled the accumulator by the activation scale and then the
weight scale. DeepGEMM multiplies the two scales first, which rounds
differently for FP32 (non-power-of-two) checkpoint scales such as
DeepSeek-V3/R1 and Qwen3 FP8.
- SiLU used tl.sigmoid (approximate exp and division). The CUTLASS SiLU
is x / (1 + expf(-x)) with an accurate expf and IEEE division. It now
uses libdevice exp and div_rn.
The FP8 GEMMs still accumulate in a different order, so the docstring
now says the two paths agree to within about one BF16 ulp rather than
promising the same numerics.
The batch-dependent kernel arguments (num_valid_tokens; num_pairs and
num_slots in the single-program alignment) only bound masks, so they are
marked do_not_specialize. Before, each new value that was 1 or not a
multiple of 16 compiled another kernel during serving. The activation
quantizers' group is tied to the GEMMs' group_k, the E4M3 maximum comes
from torch.finfo, and the tile-choice comment states the condition it
encodes.
Tests: annotations on the new helpers and tests; the FP8-activation test
also runs FP32 block scales and hidden 2048 at 1 and 4 tokens (the
narrow-N tile); new zero-weight and FP32-output cases. The
single-program alignment is checked like moe_align_block_size (exact
expert ids and per-expert contents) at the production block count, with
concentrated routing, on any CUDA GPU. This replaces the weaker
alignment test.
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
- The FP8-activation reference computed 448 / amax as a scalar over a
tensor, which torch evaluates as a reciprocal times 448 and does not
round correctly. One ulp of scale moved values on an FP8 rounding
midpoint, so hidden-2048 decode cases differed from the kernel's
correctly rounded division. Both divisions are now tensor by tensor;
the kernel then matches the reference to within its FP32/FP64 noise.
- The CPU dispatch fixture gave the leaf a SimpleNamespace for its quant
scales; the fused-op fallback lists them, so it is now the
FusedMoEQuantScalesDeepSeekFP8BlockScales tuple the leaf really holds.
- test_moe_backend skips tactic capture and replay when the SM90 Triton
leaf runs a decode-sized batch, which calls no autotuned op, and only
checks accuracy.
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
@hanjingtian Rebased onto the latest upstream main (737bf56), which includes the CI hang fix from #22101 (6edbe38). The new head is bc8037e, and CI has been re-triggered on it.
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- Line 5556: Update the `runs_untuned_triton` exemption to reflect the actual
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Keep tactic replay enabled for fallback calls.
For an FP16 call with at most 32 rows, this condition sets runs_untuned_triton=True. However, _takes_triton_path in fp8_block_scales_hopper_triton.py rejects FP16 input, so run_moe executes the parent fused op. The test then skips tactic replay and checks only one output. Incorrect fallback tactics can pass unnoticed.
Base this exemption on the actual dispatch conditions, not only the leaf class and row count.
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Update the `runs_untuned_triton` exemption to reflect the actual dispatch conditions, including input dtype, rather than relying only on the leaf class and row count. Keep tactic replay enabled when FP16 input causes `_takes_triton_path` to reject the Triton path and `run_moe` uses the parent fused op.
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Split out of #20878 (GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on Hopper) so MoE owners can review it on its own. The other changes are in
#21179 (Python) and #21178 (C++).
On SM90, FP8 block-scale MoE runs through the
fp8_block_scalesCUTLASS leaf (DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl).Its grouped DeepGEMM kernel walks every expert group on one persistent CTA per SM. At decode batch sizes most experts are
empty, so the GEMMs stay far from the bandwidth bound.
This PR adds an opt-in SM90 leaf,
TrtllmTritonFp8ActGroupedGemmFp8BlockScalesImpl(
trtllm.triton.fp8_act_grouped_gemm.fp8_block_scales). It is a registered subclass of the DeepGEMM leaf and runsTriton FP8-activation kernels for decode-sized batches. For everything else it calls the DeepGEMM leaf's
run_moe.Selection
PATH_NOT_ENABLEDunlessTLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SM90_TRITON_FP8_DECODE=1. Without the flag, every SM90 FP8 block-scale layer resolves exactly ason main.
MoEEnvFlag, socan_implementreads it from the frozen environment and it lands in theenvironment fingerprint.
find_cutlass_leafreturns the leaf only when the flag is set.impl_idpin of it measures DeepGEMM only.When a call takes the Triton path (
_takes_triton_path; otherwise the fused op runs)run_moereceives at mostTRITON_FP8_ACT_MAX_TOKENS(32) rows. These are the rows after dispatch: withattention DP and an allgather they count every DP rank's tokens.
moe_outputbuffer is passed, so the path never runs under NVLinkOneSided.act_*slots incache_derived_state.The Triton path
expert blocks the batch can occupy.
moe_alignfor up to 128 (token, expert) pairs, and a top-k sum kernel.do_not_specialize, so new batch sizes do not compile new kernelsbeyond the power-of-two classes.
Numerics. The rounding steps follow the fused op:
448 / amax;expfand IEEE division, rounded to BF16 before quantization;The FP8 GEMMs accumulate in a different order, so results are not bit-identical to the fused op. Against the fused op
on H100 and H200 (1 to 32 rows, five seeds each, the GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 and DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE shapes), 84-98% of the
outputs are bit-identical (50% for one row of the GLM shape), cosine distance is at most 6e-4, and the largest
difference is 18 BF16 ulp of the row's largest output. Against the FP32 reference that follows the fused op's rounding
steps (
test_fp8_act_matches_reference), the kernel agrees to within the reference's own FP32-vs-FP64 difference.ConfigurableMoE's FP8 block-scale accuracy test passes all 9 SM90 cases on H100 with the flag set.
Expert parallelism. (token, expert) pairs owned by other ranks keep a clamped local expert id with zero weight,
as in the SM120 Triton path, so they are still computed. Dropping them is a follow-up before enabling the path for
EP>1.
Performance
With the flag set, from this PR's CI wheel (main 37e6e67 + this PR).
Full MoE layer under a CUDA graph, us per call, fused op -> Triton:
GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 MoE = 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank; DeepSeek-V3 TP8 MoE = 256
experts, top-8, hidden 7168, 256 per rank. On H100 the GLM shape breaks even at 32 rows, so the 32-row threshold
(tuned on H200) sits at the edge there.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 end to end on H200 (TP4, MTP3, BF16 KV cache, with #21179; CI wheel, flag off -> on, two runs each):
Compilation on first use (H100, empty Triton cache, GLM shape): going through 1 to 32 rows, new kernels compiled only
at 1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 17 and 18 rows: 1.4 s for the first call and 0.06-0.4 s for each later one, about 2.5 s in total
per process. Every other row count compiled nothing. A shuffled order compiled the same number of times.
The GEMM tile choice (block_n 64 with 4 stages when K >= 2048 and at most 32 expert blocks) was tuned on the
GLM-5.3-Flash TP4 shapes.
Not measured: end to end on DeepSeek/Qwen3, H20, EP>1, and attention DP with MoE TP. These are needed before
enabling the path by default.
Test Coverage
test_moe_impl.py:impl_idpin andfind_cutlass_leafwithout and with the flag;test_moe_backend.py(cpu_only):run_moedispatch at 32 vs 33 rows and each fallback, with the forwarded weights, clamp andoutput_dtype;Nonerouting scales;activation.test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py(whole file inl0_h100.yml):scales, no clamp / clamp / clamp after SiLU, zero-weight pairs and an FP32 output;
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